DISQUS

BLOGBloke: Comments that SUCK!

  • Juggling Frogs · 2 years ago
    Uh oh. I removed the "nofollow" from my templates, and then wrote that I did so in my "comments policy."


    Does this mean that I'm misrepresenting what I've done?



    Is there an easy way to check that I'm not lying when I tell people I've removed the "nofollow" tags?



    This is annoying. Grrr.



    Thank you, Instabloke, for keeping us informed about this.
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    I said the same thing in another post when I thought that I had gotten rid of it. But unfortunately just removing it from the template doesn't affect the comments because Blogger still controls that part of the code.


    There is nothing wrong with saying you removed it from your template, and how that affects comments is out of your control. I haven't read your policy so I can't comment, but if you think it's important enough to edit then I guess that would be up to you.
  • Douglas Karr · 2 years ago
    This may sound funny, but the thing I found most annoying by blogger comments is that they don't have their tab indexes set properly for the form when you select 'other'.


    Enter comment, then tab and it goes to your name, tab again and it goes back to the comment. It requires me to mouse-click back to the URL field and then click the submit.



    It's been like this for over a year!
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    I never noticed that before. No wonder my right index finger is so sore!


    Great to have you back again Doug!
  • Mike · 2 years ago
    "And so my fellow bloggers, be sure to write a post about this nonsense. Write to Blogger, your congressman or even to your granny and tell Blogger to stop imposing its will on us and let there be link love."


    ...and then install WordPress ;)
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    I knew that bashing Blogger would smoke out the Wordpress fanatics :)
  • Juggling Frogs · 2 years ago
    Well, as long as we're writing to Congress, Blogger, and Granny, we might as well mention that it would be nice to be able to EDIT comments, not just DELETE them.
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    Good point! I can't believe I missed that one.
  • Andy Beard · 2 years ago
    I am generally avoiding commenting on Blogger blogs at the moment because I end up with a half size windown in Polish so I can't even proof what I am typing correctly unless I reduce the window to be showing text 4 pixels high.


    The links that count are those on your permalink, not those in the stupid comment entry window.



    Your blog is correctly a "dofollow" blog with followable links on the permalink page, which is the page that matters.



    It doesn't matter about links on the popup form page





    Then again you are not going to get any benefit from it at all as a Blogger user if you comment using your Blogger ID
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    Looking at the source code for this page I'm seeing lots of nofollow attributes. Nevertheless I agree with respect to using Blogger ID is not a good idea, but thankfully they have provided an option ("other") to use our own URL. Thanks for dropping by Andy and putting up with the Polish windows. ;-)
  • Sueblimely · 2 years ago
    I agree the incomplete pop up commenting window is very annoying. I use a Firefox extension that allows me to right click in the pop up window and choose to 'open in duplicate window' - the new window is full size.


    I left a comment in reply to your comment on my nofollow post on 'Blog Blond' regarding using Haloscan (www.haloscan.com) for Blogger comments. I wondered if you had any opinion about using this method?
  • Sueblimely · 2 years ago
    Please ignore the question about Haloscan as I just read your post 'Trackback is Making a Comeback', explaining why you stopped using it for commenting - because of the time limit on how long the comments remain there.
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    Sublimely, I forgot to mention that your post was very thorough and well done.
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    BTW, all you have to do is click the 'Maximize' button (the little square in the top right-hand corner of the pop-up window) to make it open up. This works with all browsers.
  • Andy Beard · 2 years ago
    You are looking at the comment link, not the permalink. When you click a comment link, it oprns a popul with nofollow links. That is just a form, it doesn't matter if the links are followed.


    What matters are the links on a permalink page



    http://www.Blog Bloke.com/2007/06/blogger-comments-inline-wordpress.html



    That page does not have nofollow on the comments.





    Regarding haloscan, do no use it for comments, at least if you want to have the possiblility to move to another platform, or want to be part of the dofollow community. Haloscan comments are not "dofollow" from your domain.



    The window is fixed width, maximised at aorund 4500 pixels wide. It is a pain to use.
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    Hi Andy. Welcome back. I think we’re talking oranges and mandarins here. What you refer to as the permalink page, Blogger calls the post page. And that’s what I’m talking about.


    I agree with respect to Haloscan and I wouldn’t use it for other reasons as well. I do however use it for trackback which is better than nothing.



    Sorry about the small window but I have no control over that. You can however maximize it and make it easier to use. Thanks again for the comments.
  • Kuanyin · 2 years ago
    Fascinating info and commentaries. I learned a lot, but I'm still confused! :-) So should I start commenting as anonymous?
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    Beats me :)
  • Jewel Goodwin · 2 years ago
    I am so confused. It seems like the Bloke is telling us it does nothing to change the nofollow, since comments will stay nofollow, but then others (Andy for example) are saying it works? Can you clarify?
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    Hi Jewel. Join the crowd. :)


    Removing the "nofollow" attributes from your template is a good idea so you should go ahead and do it.



    All I was saying is that after removing it from my template I can still see at least one "NOINDEX,NOFOLLOW" attribute in the source code for this post page that Blogger has stuck in there despite my efforts to remove it.



    How that impacts overall is anybody's guess at this time.



    Nevertheless, like I said it is still a good idea to remove the attribute from your template.



    I believe what Andy was saying is the pop-up comment page also shows nofollow attributes but we need not worry about that because it is Blogger's page and separate from our blog. I agree with that opinion.



    I hope this helps clarify the confusion.



    ...BB
  • NIHAL · 2 years ago
    Hi BB,


    Looks like we're still fighting this war aren't we?? ha ha ha



    Everyone wants to know the answer, does it work or not? Totally agree with you guys, BB and Andy.



    The best thing to do here is just remove them and then... just pray it works :)
  • Blog Bloke · 2 years ago
    Kinda like Windows Plug and "Pray" don't you think ;-)
  • kelly · 1 year ago
    The only NEW feature that Blogger has now - you can have all comments right under every post instead of the dumb pop-up window for comments (I hate that pop-up too!)

    I still prefer self-hosted wordpress blogs. They really stand out! :)

    kellys last blog post...One Human Trait often Overlooked as a “Online Success Ingredient” (Part 2)
  • Deutschland spot · 9 months ago
    Great article. Nice blog. Keep it coming. Mike